Hello,

 How exciting to see that there is already a forum devoted to this new program.  I am sure a great community will develop.

My mother has a website www.sawyercreek.com which she has been maintaining with Frontpage 2000 and we get a couple million hits a year.  It helps sell the horses and the live farm cam (where people can see them born) is very popular.  I live in a different state and be are both on Dial-up because that is all that is available in the rural areas that we live in.  The web page is entirely in Html and because of the ease of Frontpage neither of us have really learned html.   Frankly the page looks like a little hokey.  There are several appearance and accessibility things we would like to change.

I received my copy of expression web to check it out and become familiar with before I get my mother up to speed with in on my next visit in April.  Promise of using css, layers, getting rid of the frames etc is all appealing.  The learning curve may be a little much for my mother (by no means is she dumb, just resistant to knew things). I have watched the tutorial and searched the help but I couldn't find an answer to my question.

Does expression web automatically select and transfer just the changed pages when you publish like it does with Frontpage?

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer, also we are always welcome to criticism on our existing page.
 

 

 

I'm glad to see you found your way over here.Seems like for someone who says they don't know very much you've managed to add qutie a few features to your site. :-)

I agree that ditching the frames will be an imrovement and I'd also like to suggest you don't play music onload some people can't have sound suddenly coming out of their speakers. Maybe play button would work better or one of the flash jukebox applications if you want to let peole have a choice of music.

I like the background but it does make the text harder to read.

My brother has three horses about about 12 miles south of me but we're in the city. Last horse I owned was as a teenager.

Thanks for the suggestions, I am in total agreement with them all.  Unfortunately there are creative differences with the "boss."  I am hoping before I head back in April, I can get something designed that will be such an improvement that she will let those other things go.

It will be difficult getting her to switch over to a new program as she is so confident with frontpage.  

Yeah, getting the "boss" to agree can sometimes be hte hardest part of the job. :)

Sometimes it is hard for people to "see" what something can be. If you go ahead and show what it could be (subsite or subdomain *new.domain.com) it helps. Since in this case "mom" is the one you have to convince getting paid for the work isn't a big issue when it comes to doing something on spec. Worse case senario if she doesn't like it is you have learned something.

The answer to your question is yes. You work on your web site local (on your HD) and then File>Publish to your remote site. Only changed pages are then transfered to the remote site. I think you have to allow some hidden files to be stored when you first publish so EW can keep track of what is new. I suppose if you dis-allow the hidden files everything would be publishes every time.

However, I am having a problem with publishing that maybe some of the gurus can help me with.

When I publish from my local HD to my server, there are a number of files marked with the arrow indicating they are to be uploaded. There is a note that they are unmatched. These files have not been changed or even opened in EW. When I publish, these files appear to be uploaded and the arrow goes away for only a few seconds and then returns with a note that the files are unmatched. Is this a bug in EW or am I doing something wrong? My site has FP extensions and I am using  that option (site with FP extensions) to publish.

I just published some changes to my site http:/HUUweb.org and get the same thing. Changes are published. But files still indicate unmatched. Don't think it was like this before but cannot honestly remember now. Recalculated hyperlinks and republished and still get same thing. Opened site live and recalculated hyperlinks on remote site. Close site. Open Site and files are now listed as not changed. ~pat ~

I just went through your process, even the first one that did not work. Then opened the site live and recalculated hyperlinks. Closed everything, reopened local, went to publish and still have the problem. I wonder what the synchronize option does and if it would clear the problem. I have been hesitant to use it for fear I may wind up with some kind of corruption on both locations and take a lot of work to clear up.

Thanks for answering my question. Trying to keep track of changes would have been a deal breaker for trying to get the boss to make the switch.  I will continue to work on it, get it published and then let you guys have a look.  I will have to put it up somewhere else though.  With the current set up (me being on a different computer), I can't make changes to the site.  Next time she updated front page would say "files exist on the destination server that don't exist in my webs" or something like that and ask her to delete them.  Hopefully that will not be the case with expressions web and we can both make changes to the site from different locations.

Have not used synchronize option so someone else will need to chime in on that. pat

It will ask you, publishing in Expression is not much different from publishing in FrontPage

If you have folders placed there by your host you should be able to create an empty folder with the same name and then convert to web which will then have Expression ignore the folders on both sides.

I'd put your work in porgoress in a separate folder.

Two suggestions, one check and make sure "enable meta data" so Expression has its indexes. Second, for some people a full publish overwriting files fixes the meta data. In others using timestamps to compare can work but only if the server is porperly configured.

That's all I can suggest.

I looked it up and the deal is synchronize will put the newest file on both local and remote sites. So if you have more than one person updating the site, whatever you update will update to them and vise versa. I wonder what happens if you both update the same file? Does the internet 'spload?

I used the synchronize option because all the files on both local and remote are the same. You would think everything would be synchronized and the  problem would go away. No such luck. I went to MS self help and they say it happens but their suggestions don't work.

I did a backup of my local site folder and then deleted the content. Opened my site on the server and then published it to the local folder. Everything was looking good until it finished publishing and now it is back to the same old thing. Gotta be a bug but I can't find any MS information about it. Also I know that the files marked to be published are not in fact being sent up. If they were it would take longer than a few seconds.

 

Yes indeed, Bob, I too have this problem, and it was evident even back in the beta trial versions. After much exasperation, I gave up on using EW to maintain the website updates, and now only publish using FTP.

Colin Ramsden

www.lotechsolutions.com